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Postby SIR-VRX » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:54 am

aspir3 wrote:What effect will these bars have on our cars?

The vrx's and Aspires already have the top bar in the engine bay. What size are they?

Will it effect the comfort of the ride?

I am going to fit King springs when they open after Christmas. I know these are going to stiffen my ride a little. I dont want to feel every bump.

Are people fitting these because they use their cars on the track or is there a benifit for everyday drive?


These bars are not the one under the bonnet. These are sway bars aka anti-roll bars.

They basically, as the name suggests, reduces roll of the car through corners etc

Save me typing it all out, read some more info here

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Postby Blakey » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:35 am

doesnt getting front sway bars give you more under steer?
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Postby SIR-VRX » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:06 am

A front wheel drive is always going to understeer. It's how they are. Our cars already understeer when stock.

However, aftermarket swaybars allow you to "tune" your suspension to allow for more understeer or more oversteer, depending on what you want for your driving.

A large front sway bar with our a rear bar at all, will of course induce understeer. However, we have rear bars as standard so to a degree adding a larger front have too much of a drastic effect on understeer. (Some cars have no rear bar at all)

On the contrary, having no front bar but a large rear bar can induce oversteer. In a front wheel drive car this is not what you want for ideal handling. You want a bit of understeer.

If you are so worried about inducing more understeer, why did you already get a full setup of chassis braces AND a 23mm Rear Swaybar, but no swaybar for the front?

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Postby billyboy » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:07 am

Might be interested in these, maybe the handling ones. Anyone know what size the stock bars are in the RA?

What would be the best for AWD, I'd be looking for a neutral setup if that will help understeer I sometimes notice.

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Postby SAM-24A » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:23 am

Hi billyboy:
The standard OEM Bars on the Ralliart are Front = 22mm and Rear = 20mm.
These are the same as the VRX and Aspire models.

Keep in Mind: Larger Size Diameter = Stiffer Bar.
Therefore: Handling Group = Ideal for Spirited Road-Use and Sport = Ideal for Road and/or moreso Track Use.

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For $2.50 a piece, everyone should get some on you !!!

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Postby SAM-24A » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:14 am

For those of you that might be undecided about which size Bar to purchase:

Read: Adrians SIR-VRX Link: Turn Fast http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling_antiroll Top Read !!
Also: Whiteline's Driveline Guide: http://www.whiteline.com.au/vehicle_swaybars.php half way down page "Bars on Cars"
Also View: Whitelines Sway-Bar Conversion Chart: http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bulletins/170-%20bars%20on%20cars.pdf

Hopefully all this Info will help you decide and place an EOI

Cheers: Sam

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Postby arutha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:54 pm

SIR-VRX wrote:There is also a potential saving on other item through Repco in the future.

Some examples:

1. Spark Plugs
2. AutoGlym Products
3. ???


oooow cheap autoglym. damn adrian with his contacts always tempting me with things. he's like a drug dealer but better and not so illegal lol
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Postby tryg » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:43 pm

brake pads?

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Postby SIR-VRX » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:20 pm

Brake pads yes. But only Ferodo and Bendix. Nothing fancier like Hawk or EBC

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Postby billyboy » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:37 pm

Super! thanks Sam :wink:

Glad to see your happy with tint film, though it would complement your Aspire nicely.

Oh... back on topic, express my interest on Ralliart:

Front:
24mm - Handling - BMF56Z

Rear:
22mm - Handling - BMR85Z

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Postby SAM-24A » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:27 pm

Hi Billyboy: For Spirited Road-Use and to Improve/Enhance your RalliArt from stock, then the Handling Group will suffice.
The Part No's you selected are correct Bill.

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Postby Brimstone103 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:07 pm

feb sounds good, ill grab the BMR86Z for sure at this stage :)

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Postby zedd82 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:42 pm

Should be interested in:

Ralliart
Front:
26mm - Sport - BMF56XZ

Rear:
24mm - Sport - BMR85XZ

I'll become a premium member closer to the date if need be.


Also does anyone know what is in the
Positive traction kit-rear KDT908?

Thanks.

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Postby BeHaV3 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:53 pm

EOI:


F Swaybar 26mm-heavy duty Blade adjustable BMF56XZ
R Positive traction kit-rear KDT908

R Swaybar 24mm-h/duty Blade adjustable BMR85XZ

and ????
F Caster kit (is this appropriate?) KCA401M

Article...
http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bullet ... 20bars.pdf
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Postby SIR-VRX » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:14 pm

Description for Positive traction Kit:

The Whiteline kits dramatically reduces rear cross member misalignment and movement which allows a more positive feel from the rear end during cornering.

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Description for Caster kit:

More compliant suspension will be induced during braking and
accelerating. This will benefit traction, as the wheel will be able
to track the tarmac more precisely. In terms of balance, the front
end will have a proportionally lower roll resistence during
traction or braking. Aids in reducing the power understeer effect
that is present in these vehicles and resulting in a greater
handling Mitsubishi. Caster gains resulting in a sharper,
more precise steering feel.

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