Evo Bonnet on VR??

[driftnut((]

maybe it's ofey i'm thinking of then my bad guys sorry for miss leading info must have got info confused

[Blakey]

the massive press that is required to make the bonnets cost alot i belive it was either $500,000 or it was like $5,000,000 for the machine. then he would have to buy or make the very expensive press mold for the bonnet.

if he doesn't sell alot of them then, the whole venture of him buying the machine is to make money its not gonna make money for a long time,

[SIR-VRX]

the massive press that is required to make the bonnets cost alot i belive it was either $500,000 or it was like $5,000,000 for the machine. then he would have to buy or make the very expensive press mold for the bonnet.

if he doesn't sell alot of them then, the whole venture of him buying the machine is to make money its not gonna make money for a long time,

He has a press for metal bonnets etc but for the aluminium bonnet it requires a much more expensive electromagnetic press of some kind. He can't make it with the one designed for steel, as it doesn't give the quality required for OEM quality which is what all his products must exceed.

[tadz0rz]

Ofey should be able to source the one that Mitsubishi uses ROFL

[SIR-VRX]

Yeah but it's ~$1800 Tadz

[aspir3]

the massive press that is required to make the bonnets cost alot i belive it was either $500,000 or it was like $5,000,000 for the machine. then he would have to buy or make the very expensive press mold for the bonnet.

if he doesn't sell alot of them then, the whole venture of him buying the machine is to make money its not gonna make money for a long time,

Could have bought the old presses from mitsubishi in Adelaide for a lot less then that and they were only a few years old. High production tooling is very expensive , but low production tooling are made from cheaper moulds. It would only need the top skin made and then glued and pressed to the original hood inners.

[SIR-VRX]

Could have bought the old presses from mitsubishi in Adelaide for a lot less then that and they were only a few years old. High production tooling is very expensive , but low production tooling are made from cheaper moulds. It would only need the top skin made and then glued and pressed to the original hood inners.

See my previous post. He needs high quality and low tolerance presses for the OEM parts he makes also

[JonoLangsammer]

It will look good to get a Evo boonet.. would look sikkk!

[Blakey]

Could have bought the old presses from mitsubishi in Adelaide for a lot less then that and they were only a few years old. High production tooling is very expensive , but low production tooling are made from cheaper moulds. It would only need the top skin made and then glued and pressed to the original hood inners.

See my previous post. He needs high quality and low tolerance presses for the OEM parts he makes also

it would have to be a production plant here for them to sell there old machines. let alone i wouldn't think they would sell there machines becaues of the cost of them and they last for many years all they need to change is the moulds.
and i didn't think mitsu made there cars here, when my sister bought her SB, it was made in japan and shipped here.

also i do hope no one get the full EVO conversion from accolade 1 accolade has alot of problems with you actually getting the parts, plus it looks horrible on a normal lancer, iv seem a few people in US that have done it. they just look like they have a fake evo. and your petrol cap is sunken in so it looks even worse.

[aspir3]

Could have bought the old presses from mitsubishi in Adelaide for a lot less then that and they were only a few years old. High production tooling is very expensive , but low production tooling are made from cheaper moulds. It would only need the top skin made and then glued and pressed to the original hood inners.

See my previous post. He needs high quality and low tolerance presses for the OEM parts he makes also

it would have to be a production plant here for them to sell there old machines. let alone i wouldn't think they would sell there machines becaues of the cost of them and they last for many years all they need to change is the moulds.
and i didn't think mitsu made there cars here, when my sister bought her SB, it was made in japan and shipped here.

The Magna's and 380's were made in Adelaide.

I believe the presses were sold to a Chinese company.

[SIR-VRX]

And steel presses are different to what is required for the Aluminium Evo/RA bonnet.

And Blake, they are made there for the local market, all of ours come from Japan.

[aspir3]

[quote="SIR-VRX"]And steel presses are different to what is required for the Aluminium Evo/RA bonnet.

And Blake, they are made there for the local market, all of ours come from Japan.[/quote

Aluminium is steel.

The aluminium bonnets are they pressed or Moulded?

A press is a press. They can press steel or aluminium.

If the bonnets are pressed which I imagine they would be, the tooling and jigs should work on the same principle. The tooling should be the same, but slightly modified to allow for different stretch of the material.

[arutha]

Aluminium is steel.

*shakes head in disbelief and waits for Adrian to chime in*

[SIR-VRX]

I understand what you mean, but how Shadows explained it to me is this:

As he manufactures the parts for OEM, his methods and machinery must be the same as what Mitsubishi themselves use for each part. This it to ensure the parts are 200% identical in every way, no matter where they are made.

And Mitsubishi use a high-tech Electromagnetic press of some type, which costs an arm and a let and then some. And they had to use that over a regular metal press due to something about the crease line not coming out properly or something like that.

That's what Shadows said to me in person when he was here in Brisbane last year

[aspir3]

This is all very confusing!

I use to work for the largest company in the world who develop, produce and manufacture press tools. They supply doors, bonnets and boots all over the world.

They are Japanese based company.

They have a factory that make all the doors, bonnets and boots for Holdens in Adelaide .

This is one of many all over the world.

Normally low production tools are made from a hard resin product.

The finished product will be of the same standard and dimensions but will run slower, not be automated and have a lot shorter life.

arutha I don't know why your shaking your head about aluminium being a steel. There are so many steels out there. They all have different levels of properties in them to give different strengths etc.

Most car panels are made from a special high tensile steel that are coated with high level zinc coating to help against rusting.

Adrian your knowledge on Electrical matters I find amazing but when it comes to this sort of stuff I have 20 years of experience in. I just ask because this stuff on tooling I find really interesting.