Delaying a speeding ticket

[Ravine]

Hey guys,

So on Thursday i got a speeding ticket and due to the NSW anti-P system, i'm going to lose my license as it now docks 4 points instead of the old 3.

I was just wondering as it's exactly 6 months til i get my full license, is there any way i can delay this fine and thus the points until then where they can dock the points from my full license which subsequently will result in me no longer losing my license?

Thanks guys.

[Blakey]

unless you want a court case and have to pay more you cant really delay it. you can just not pay it, but when you go to get your full license the licensing place will see you have an unpaid fine and may not give you your full license.

other then that i dunno, what did you get caught doing?

[Superintendent Chalmers]

No, the system will show the date you were caught and it will link up to the license system that will show you were on your P's.....There is a way out though, but its a little dodgy.

ADMINS CAN EDIT THIS OUT IF IT IS OUT OF LINE (DON'T MEAN TO BUT I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS)

You can get a friend/relative who are on their full license and pay them a sum of money to transfer the points deduction to their license. This can only happen if you were caught by speed camera van. If you were pulled over by highway patrol / speed trap cop with gun then you are pretty stuffed. The fine will have a transfer claim to fill out if you were the owner of the car, but someone else was driving it.

If you lost all 4 points in the one hit, then you must have been seriously doin some speed. Very dissapointing dude, but we've all made mistakes. Not driving for 6 months will hopefully make you realise how important obeying the law and not speeding is! Count yourself lucky that your license is the only thing you have lost.....

[Josh_Emerton]

Careful stanley, some people might want to kick you off the forum for admitting you got caught.

And Azza - 4 points in QLD = 20k's over +, idk about NSW.

[Superintendent Chalmers]

This was taken from the NSW RTA website

'Refusal of a licence
The RTA may refuse to renew a licence for a driver who has exceeded their demerit points limit or has committed a serious speeding offence. The periods that a licence may be refused are the same as those that apply for suspensions. The RTA will issue a Notice of Refusal.
Only after attending a motor registry and applying for a licence or licence renewal will a formal refusal be applied and a refusal notice given.'

So, it will show that you were on your P2 and won't renew your license or change you to an Open license with this infraction on your record

[SIR-VRX]

Careful stanley, some people might want to kick you off the forum for admitting you got caught.

And Azza - 4 points in QLD = 20k's over +, idk about NSW.

Your issue was multiple offences in a short time and you were apparently bragging about it.

[Superintendent Chalmers]

Careful stanley, some people might want to kick you off the forum for admitting you got caught.

And Azza - 4 points in QLD = 20k's over +, idk about NSW.

Your issue was multiple offences in a short time and you were apparently bragging about it.

Please, lets not go down this path again. But, we should have a shame file, that if someone gets a fine, they should have to tell the rest of us, and accept a bagging as punishment!! It can happen to the best of us from time to time......but not me yet.

[Graham]

As Suoperintended Chalmers said the best (although dodgy) option would be to ask someone else to take the fine. It's not the right thing to do but if you have a friend/relative who is nice enough to take the points and have it on their record then that could be the only way out.

You could try argue certain factors in court but it's unlikely you'll win and you'll end up paying more court costs..

Sorry to hear dude, hopefully it's the first/last time you get caught speeding and you don't lose any more points.

Now if only radar detectors weren't illegal in NSW...

[The X]

There is a way out though, but its a little dodgy.

ADMINS CAN EDIT THIS OUT IF IT IS OUT OF LINE (DON'T MEAN TO BUT I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS)

You can get a friend/relative who are on their full license and pay them a sum of money to transfer the points deduction to their license. This can only happen if you were caught by speed camera van. If you were pulled over by highway patrol / speed trap cop with gun then you are pretty stuffed. The fine will have a transfer claim to fill out if you were the owner of the car, but someone else was driving it.

Yes it happens, people do it, media have reported on it and it's definately illegal as the two parties are making a false declaration.

Of course the other scam (and yes probably/most likely illegal), i have heard of, is pass the parcel, is wait for the final notice, then claim it wasn't you, sign the decleration, blame on a family member/friend, family member/friend gets their notice, then waits for their final notice, then they deny it was them and point the finger back at you.
You then miraculously remember it was in fact you in the car that day. Pay fine, get points deducted off your full license, profit, win. Don't be an idiot until you get your points back. Of course being you have 6 months might be stretching it. You might have to add another person in the middle of the chain until it makes it way back to you again.

I can't personally vouch that this will work, I've heard from a work colleague (about to lose his licence) on his full licence that he did this amongst family (3 i think) about 12 months passed for the complete cycle and NSW State Revenue let it go. Apparently infrigements must be processed within 12 months. no idea how that works. I bet it comes back to bite tho.

Personally, you should cop it sweet. Lesson learnt. We all have our moments of madness and exceed the limit by a bit or a lot, just that you got caught.

[Graham]

I'm interested to know how that theory would work, I've heard theorys about people delaying paying a fine that involves demerits until they get points back (within a few months) but I'm not sure how it would work..

you'd either
a.) lose your license for the period of time when you pay the fine regardless of regaining points

b.) lose the points from the fine you paid but still have points left from the ones you've recovered


I'm not sure on this - but once you sign the declaration it may be FINAL and you can't pass it on again, if you really want to know more go to the state library, they usually have these sort of documents available to read there.

[SIR-VRX]

You don't lose the points until you pay the fine. So you can pay the fine in 12 months time, and you lose your points then.

HOWEVER, the loss of points is back-dated until the date of original infringement. So once you pay the fine, you lose the points from the day of infringement, then you will get a letter saying you have lost all your points etc

But, you get to choose a good behaviour bond program (if the offence is not too bad) where you don't loose your license, but you are put on 1 point for 12 months.

In conclusion: Just pay the fine, accept the loss of points and then when the letter arrives, select the good behaviour program.

[Superintendent Chalmers]

2 points good behavior in NSW Adrian.

If you want to take it to a real extreme thing - blame it on another family member, sign their signature, and when the letter comes addressed to them, open it, pay the money and don't tell them about it. Thats the real illegal part of the plan I didn't want to say in the first rant.

Forgery is a real different law though. Punishable by a lot worse than 6 months not driving!

[Blakey]

you can just ask a family member to take the fine if they say they did it then it is not illegal unless the cops can prove it wasn't that person but they don't really chase that stuff up.

also what Ravine he lost all his points cause in NSW i believe they have a system if you are on your p's and you get any sort of fine that loses points even if it is just one point, you lose your license. i have read this somewhere.

gah for some reason the forum keeps removing my stuff so i just removed it

[Graham]

2 points good behavior in NSW Adrian.

If you want to take it to a real extreme thing - blame it on another family member, sign their signature, and when the letter comes addressed to them, open it, pay the money and don't tell them about it. Thats the real illegal part of the plan I didn't want to say in the first rant.

Forgery is a real different law though. Punishable by a lot worse than 6 months not driving!

I would highly recommend NOT doing that, you can get into ALOT more trouble if you do it this way, plus have a family member very angry about it

[SIR-VRX]

you can just ask a family member to take the fine if they say they did it then it is not illegal unless the cops can prove it wasn't that person but they don't really chase that stuff up.

The illegal part is the false statutory declaration you have to make.