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leevin · Postby **leevin** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:16 am

welcome to the club, hope to see you at some cruises!

hasu12 · Postby **hasu12** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:26 am

congrats

i love the HID on aspire hehe

spareparts · Postby **spareparts** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:35 am

welcome to the club..... i had that issue with mine i wanted the roof and there was a 3 month wait end up getin it with out koz the daler offered the Hollandia sunroof to me as well but the thought of cutin a big hole into a car with 30ks on it sorta threw me a lil. but each to there own

Aspired · Postby **Aspired** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:34 am

spareparts wrote:welcome to the club..... i had that issue with mine i wanted the roof and there was a 3 month wait end up getin it with out koz the daler offered the Hollandia sunroof to me as well but the thought of cutin a big hole into a car with 30ks on it sorta threw me a lil. but each to there own

Thats how Mitsubishi do it, they cut a hole in the roof.
Does anyone know what brand sunroof Mitsubishi use ?
Is it a Hollandia ?

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:39 am

The Mitsubishi one is fitted at the factory. The actual roof structure is different between sunroof models and regular ones.

So anything other than a proper factory fit one is not going to be 100%. They can put in the "reinforcing" all they like, but its no where near the same as a factory fit one.

Put it this way, I wouldn't risk it. Who knows how the car would crumble in a side impact. The roof makes up a lot of strength of the vehicle in side-impacts btw.

Aspired · Postby **Aspired** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:41 am

SIR-VRX wrote:The actual roof structure is different between sunroof models and regular ones

Are you sure about this. The production cost for this would be huge.

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:42 am

Aspired wrote:
SIR-VRX wrote:The actual roof structure is different between sunroof models and regular ones

Are you sure about this. The production cost for this would be huge.

1000000% sure. I will get pics to prove it right now for you.

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:52 am

Ok, here is the proof. These pictures were taken straight out of the Workshop manual.

Note item number 9. That replaces item 7, and it also provides the strength around all 4 sides of the sunroof, which a aftermarket sunroof could not do. And it would also replace the strength lost by having a gaping hole in the roof outer sheeting.

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:09 am

Also, take note of the 4 drain pipes, labelled 5, 6 and 7

I don't know how the aftermarket ones ares drained (if at all) but I bet it's not with 4 pipes.

Aspired · Postby **Aspired** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:11 am

Number 9 is just the sunroof housing that all sunroofs have.
A company can't just cut a hole in the roof and fit a sunroof, it would have be be engineered to pass all safety standards/requirements of the manufacturer. Have a look at the safety section here - http://www.prestigesunroofs.com.au/ Click on Sunroofs then Sunroofs and Safety

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:14 am

Yes I'm sure it passes all standards. But my point it, it's not going to be as structural as the genuine.

And number 9 is the housing, yes, but it incorporates number 7 effectively. When an aftermarket sunroof is fitted, number 7 would have to be cut out, and there is no way it can be replaced. That's the point I was trying to get across

Aspired · Postby **Aspired** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:18 am

It does get replaced..
Look at this - http://www.prestigesunroofs.com.au/pdfs ... nroofs.pdf

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:32 am

Ah ok then. Didn't see that PDF when I followed your first link.

Still, to me it's not the same. Each to their own I guess.

Aspired · Postby **Aspired** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:35 am

SIR-VRX wrote:
Aspired wrote:
SIR-VRX wrote:The actual roof structure is different between sunroof models and regular ones

Are you sure about this. The production cost for this would be huge.

1000000% sure. I will get pics to prove it right now for you.

This is not done on the production line as part of the manufacturing process of the shell. Mitsubishi will not have 2 separate production lines for every model producing 2 different shells. All shells are the same when built by Mitsubishi. Sunroofs are fitted later and it is at this stage that the changes to the roof are made.

That is how Ford do it and I can't see Mitsubishi or any other manufacturer of a high volume car doing it any differently. Ford used Tickford to fit the factory optioned sunroofs(which were Hollandia sunroofs), But since FPV i think they now use prestige sunroofs, I don't think FPV do it. Its just not economically viable to produce 2 different shells of each model.

SIR-VRX · Postby **SIR-VRX** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:39 am

It is on the production line. They produce the Evo chassis on the same line. And there is greater differences between the Evo and the Lancer so a sunroof equipped Lancer which is only 3 pieces different.

The Japanese have mass production mastered in every degree. Ford Australia is so behind it is not funny. They can't even get panel gaps even.

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