SST Fluid comparison - Results

megatron · Postby **megatron** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:46 am

El-Diablo wrote:4 litre cans of diaqueen on ebay at the moment for 140 buck a shot

hi Rob do you have a link?

Speedie · Postby **Speedie** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:50 am

El-Diablo wrote:4 litre cans of diaqueen on ebay at the moment for 140 buck a shot

Think thats $140 USD

El-Diablo · Postby **El-Diablo** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:00 am

yes USD

El-Diablo · Postby **El-Diablo** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:01 am

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-D ... 6c8&_uhb=1

they want 100 bucks a tin shipping DOH! Im sure something could be arranged USPS.

megatron · Postby **megatron** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:02 am

+ postage?

chris · Postby **chris** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:29 am

Whats the best price here for diaqueen?

Beeble · Postby **Beeble** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:48 am

RRP is about 230. I sell it for trade price which isn't much better... it used to be less but the aussie dollar divebombed

chris · Postby **chris** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:16 pm

So thats $57.50 a litre eight litres $460 Ford $35 a litre eight litres $280 now that is a worth while saving.

Beeble · Postby **Beeble** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:56 pm

^ while the base fluid is definitely the same - there was always this speculation about certain minor additives being added to the Ford or the Mitsu fluids to change the way they behaved. This is what caused so many people to stick with Diaqueen.

and while the test we did above looks similar so far, many people have reported they don't quite behave the same in the car. never know if this is pure chance though!

chris · Postby **chris** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:19 pm

If the same people were told it was diaqueen maybe they would think it was ok, you have to have a double blind test.

Beeble · Postby **Beeble** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:33 pm

^^ exactly

they were looking for little faults that may have always been there

BST50N · Postby **BST50N** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:10 am

poe_sniper wrote:Is it possible to test the vicosity at different temperatures?

Hmmm maybe. I'll have to see if i have enough left of each, but I have a feeling that i don't

BST50N · Postby **BST50N** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:19 am

fearfulmaster1 wrote:For those who missed it, the guys in the US has sent some samples to blackstone. Looking at the FTIR results between diaqueen and ford, am I correct to assume that the y axis indicates the concentration of a substance at a particular wavelength? Does that mean the variation around 920 - 980 nm and around 780 nm indicates that the ford fluid contains something that is not present diaqueen? As for the slight amplitude difference for the rest of the spectrum, would that be a variation in manufacturing, storage or instrument readings?

Hi Ken, regarding the FTIR you are kind of right about the concentration. Yes, a stronger peak typically does mean there is a higher concentration of that particular functional group. The slight variation you are talking about between the Ford and Diaqueen i would say is negligible, and just due to noise/instrument etc, as is the slight amplitude change. But good observation.

One difference I would say was real is the peak at about 1060nm in the Motul vs LiquiMoly. The peak is there in the Motul, but very faint in the LiquiMoly. This peak is not that strong however so relatively a smaller component.

R4LLI4RT · Postby **R4LLI4RT** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:06 am

so nick in your opinion the ford stuff is 99% the same as the diaqueen?

BST50N · Postby **BST50N** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:17 am

R4LLI4RT wrote:so nick in your opinion the ford stuff is 99% the same as the diaqueen?

As I said before, I am only going on this one test. From this test only, it appears as though it is very similar. However, as can be seen in the results, the Motul and LiquiMoly are also quite similar, but have slightly different viscosity. Until I have some more data I'm not happy to say the two are the same.

I'll try and get some more work done on it this week if I have time.

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