***** ALERT - Nominations for your new ClubCJ Committee can be made here *****

options on sst oil change???

Evo X Performance & Modifications.

Moderators: Moderators, Senior Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
R4LLI4RT
Lancer Legend
Lancer Legend
Posts: 1202
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:32 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby R4LLI4RT » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:05 pm

interesting, so would you say the ford fluid is more durable?
3Inch Custom Cat Back Exhaust
Home Brand Alloy UICP
DBA Slotted and Drilled Rotors
K&N Panel Filter Replacement
DBA Extreme Pads
Turbosmart Dual Port BOV
Tein S Tech Springs
Painted Calipers (Makes it look faster) ;-)
User avatar
BST50N
Lancer Ralliart
Lancer Ralliart
Posts: 512
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
Location: Rydalmere

Postby BST50N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 am

R4LLI4RT wrote:interesting, so would you say the ford fluid is more durable?


I can't say from the info that I have now, or that I will collect if the Ford fluid is more durable. You'd have to do an extended friction test over time or something like that (I think its a 3 ball rotating friction setup) - but I don't have that kit. When the Diaqueen gets here it will be good to see which type is most similar. The info I'll provide is how similar the fluids are - people can then make their own judgement based on that.
MAP EF2 turbo , DW65 fuel pump, ID1000 injectors, EvoX FMIC, UR dump pipe, 100 cell cat, CP-E Exhaust, aFe air filter...and mud flaps!
User avatar
BST50N
Lancer Ralliart
Lancer Ralliart
Posts: 512
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
Location: Rydalmere

Postby BST50N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:14 am

Diaqueen and Martini in from Beeble! Stay tuned!
MAP EF2 turbo , DW65 fuel pump, ID1000 injectors, EvoX FMIC, UR dump pipe, 100 cell cat, CP-E Exhaust, aFe air filter...and mud flaps!
User avatar
R4LLI4RT
Lancer Legend
Lancer Legend
Posts: 1202
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:32 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby R4LLI4RT » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:42 am

any diffrence visaully?
3Inch Custom Cat Back Exhaust

Home Brand Alloy UICP

DBA Slotted and Drilled Rotors

K&N Panel Filter Replacement

DBA Extreme Pads

Turbosmart Dual Port BOV

Tein S Tech Springs

Painted Calipers (Makes it look faster) ;-)
User avatar
BST50N
Lancer Ralliart
Lancer Ralliart
Posts: 512
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
Location: Rydalmere

Postby BST50N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:52 am

Results are in from FTIR testing only. Note this is only one test, and I will need to do the others to get confirmation. As it stands:

Diaqueen = Ford
Motul = LiquiMoly
Martini = HKS

This is only looking at the main functional groups, an their relative expression. This cant tell you anything directly about other properties. What it does say is that these pairs are VERY similar chemically. Motul, LiqiMoly, Martini and HKS are also quite similar to each other. Diaqueen and Ford appear to have some significant differences to the other 4. I'll get some graphs up later.

Thermal analysis has been a pain in the ass. The decomposition of the fluids is exothermic, as i expected, as the esters would be breaking down. Problem is its overloading the detector so I'm finding it difficult to get an accurate decomposition point. I'll need to work on this a bit.

Visually Ford and Diaqueen look the same. HKS is the same colour as ford and Diaqueen. The other three are varying shades of yellow-brown. Photo to come later.
MAP EF2 turbo , DW65 fuel pump, ID1000 injectors, EvoX FMIC, UR dump pipe, 100 cell cat, CP-E Exhaust, aFe air filter...and mud flaps!
User avatar
R4LLI4RT
Lancer Legend
Lancer Legend
Posts: 1202
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:32 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby R4LLI4RT » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:01 am

this is really exciting, ive heard alot of ppl say that the ford stuff is very close to diaqueen.
3Inch Custom Cat Back Exhaust

Home Brand Alloy UICP

DBA Slotted and Drilled Rotors

K&N Panel Filter Replacement

DBA Extreme Pads

Turbosmart Dual Port BOV

Tein S Tech Springs

Painted Calipers (Makes it look faster) ;-)
User avatar
poe_sniper
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 291
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:30 pm
Location: Glen Oak

Postby poe_sniper » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:58 pm

Wow...interesting. Martini could equal HKS. How much is Martini?
Image
User avatar
megatron
Lancer Legend
Lancer Legend
Posts: 1364
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Brendale

Postby megatron » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:00 pm

$169 for 5L
User avatar
gman90
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 208
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:03 pm

Postby gman90 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:40 pm

Hi all how does the ford stuff match up ??? Or are the results not back yet would be good if the ford stuff comes close to the diaqueen


Does any one have a stock of tc sst transmission filters.,, they sell ????
Gary? ???
Evolution X MR 712 GTP Turbo Upgrade. Pedders Sports Extrema Coil Overs, DBA 5000 Premium 2 piece Brake Rotors Front and Rear Rotors ,OME Black- Out Rear Taillights (Ralliart) Red Floor Illumination. White Line Centre Roll Adjust Kit.
Ecutek Custom Tune. 3in TurboXS. Turbo Back Exhaust.
User avatar
BST50N
Lancer Ralliart
Lancer Ralliart
Posts: 512
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
Location: Rydalmere

Postby BST50N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:41 pm

gman90 wrote:Hi all how does the ford stuff match up ??? Or are the results not back yet would be good if the ford stuff comes close to the diaqueen Does any one have a stock of tc sst transmission filters.,, they sell ???? Gary? ???


Hey Gary, the Ford and Diaqueen match pretty much exactly on the FTIR. Their viscosity is similar, but I don't have enough of the Ford fluid to get an accurate viscosity reading. Have you got anymore you can send? I need about the same amount again that you sent (1 more of the small containers).
MAP EF2 turbo , DW65 fuel pump, ID1000 injectors, EvoX FMIC, UR dump pipe, 100 cell cat, CP-E Exhaust, aFe air filter...and mud flaps!
User avatar
poe_sniper
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 291
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:30 pm
Location: Glen Oak

Postby poe_sniper » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:17 pm

megatron wrote:$169 for 5L


That's a bit cheaper but not by much.
Image
User avatar
BST50N
Lancer Ralliart
Lancer Ralliart
Posts: 512
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
Location: Rydalmere

Postby BST50N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:21 pm

See results in new thread fellas
MAP EF2 turbo , DW65 fuel pump, ID1000 injectors, EvoX FMIC, UR dump pipe, 100 cell cat, CP-E Exhaust, aFe air filter...and mud flaps!
User avatar
gman90
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 208
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:03 pm

Postby gman90 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm

Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary
Evolution X MR 712 GTP Turbo Upgrade. Pedders Sports Extrema Coil Overs, DBA 5000 Premium 2 piece Brake Rotors Front and Rear Rotors ,OME Black- Out Rear Taillights (Ralliart) Red Floor Illumination. White Line Centre Roll Adjust Kit.

Ecutek Custom Tune. 3in TurboXS. Turbo Back Exhaust.
User avatar
gman90
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 208
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:03 pm

Postby gman90 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm

Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary
Evolution X MR 712 GTP Turbo Upgrade. Pedders Sports Extrema Coil Overs, DBA 5000 Premium 2 piece Brake Rotors Front and Rear Rotors ,OME Black- Out Rear Taillights (Ralliart) Red Floor Illumination. White Line Centre Roll Adjust Kit.

Ecutek Custom Tune. 3in TurboXS. Turbo Back Exhaust.
User avatar
gman90
Lancer VR/GT
Lancer VR/GT
Posts: 208
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:03 pm

Postby gman90 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm

Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary
Evolution X MR 712 GTP Turbo Upgrade. Pedders Sports Extrema Coil Overs, DBA 5000 Premium 2 piece Brake Rotors Front and Rear Rotors ,OME Black- Out Rear Taillights (Ralliart) Red Floor Illumination. White Line Centre Roll Adjust Kit.

Ecutek Custom Tune. 3in TurboXS. Turbo Back Exhaust.
Post Reply

Return to “Evolution X Performance”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests