Just did Stage 1 course in my cj

[ads18x]

I just did my stage 1 driving course today and was really pleased with the lancer's performance, I do think it could do with a strut brace or anti-roll bar bit too much body roll.
We were only doing braking and cornering in wet and dry conditions but it was really fun.
I got the second shortest stopping distance in a straight line stop from 75-0km/h. Wouldn't hear about it but a Volvo got the shortest lol.
Even out-braked a SS VE commodore... I don't know the performance stats but the driver might have something to do with it.
We were also doing double chicane's under brakes in the wet and the cj just breezed through it, piece of cake lol.
But yeah everything they taught is relative to the real world and recommend it to anyone.
I'm booking in for stage 2 right now lol

[Dummer]

If you want to reduce body roll your money is better spent on lowered springs or coilovers to reduce the bodyroll. If you dont want to lower the car but want to reduce body roll then consider the VRX springs. They have less body roll, same ride height as the ES/VR and the ride comfort isnt as bad as lowered springs. Am selling mine for $40 (I lowered my VRX) if you're interested.

But yeah strut braces will stop a lil bit of body roll as they strengthen the chasis and stop it from flexing under hard cornering, however you will notice the greatest reduction in body roll if you change your springs. King Spring lows arent too bad, still a few steep driveways you have to take at an angle to stop the front air dams scrubbing (although being an ES you shouldnt have to worry about this) but the ride is harsh and you feel every bump (something my mum bitches about all the time).

[ads18x]

Yeah lowering my poor VR isn't even an option for me I think i have the steepest driveway known to man lol I have to get a run up to get the car in the garage. I will def get strut brace after I put my new wheels on but dunno about the springs or coilovers... How much work involved
The body roll wasn't as bad as say a 4wd or another high cg car but I noticed it and it just made it that little bit harder throwing it around the corners.

I did the the Ian Luff Motivate Australia Drive To Survive at Oran Park. I Think it's $285 or cheaper if you book online.

If anyone is worried, your insurance is still valid while doing this course because it is a self development course to improve your skills and ultimately reduce accidents.
Yeah I'm gonna ring tomorrow to see if I can get a discount now hehe

[bye2u]

get some front and rear sway bars

[jamez707]

ill second the note on the springs

i lowerd my vrx by 3.5 cm...looks great and the body roll is allot less

[BeHaV3]

I did a Stage 2 (Skid pan) day fo rabout $175 at Oran Pk (not Luffy's one)

Make the most of the day..bring a photographer.....

Excuse the cars, but here are a couple of photos from my last course.. on (or over) the limits of adhesion. Really get to know your and your cars capability....how it feels when you over cook it into a corner, and attempt to re-train your brain to react faster and more appropriately.
Highly recommend or both fun and for life skills (safer driving)

[m1n1on]

Just about the pics above... why would you go thru the water hazards with your window open?

[BeHaV3]

If you drive fast enough (which you are encouraged to do to understand what the car feels like at the limits of grip) the spray goes outwards.

The only real problem is if you get too far sideways, e.g handbrake turn. Then you get a slight bath!

[nickbutterz]

thats awsome i wish theses were in the us

[Josh_Emerton]

I did the Peter Roggenkamp Drive To Survive course last week in mine

Was absolutely incredible. Cornering in wet, Lancer just breezed through it, girl in Excel just locked up and kept going straight hahaha

In saying that, it scared me slightly knowing how crap some drivers are. The lady doing the course with me (in a CRV) couldnt change gears properly (kept going from 2nd to 5th), insisted you could do a 90 degree corner and come out of it whilst not changing gear (i.e., in 5th all the way) and that the shuddering was perfectly normal and was just gears doing their job (not that they're struggling or anything), she stalled it heaps of times throughout the day (i mean, just stalling, not emergency brake stalling. (we were taught to brake without the clutch, reduces reaction time)) and didnt know that a green arrow on a traffic light meant you could turn left (i.e., whilst the 'go-straight' light was green.)

Scary stuff. anwyay.....