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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:18 am

adamhumphrey wrote:The car should know about door ajar. Do you get an indicator on dash if boot is open?

Yes when I open the boot it shows but should it show with the bonnet?

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:30 am

adamhumphrey wrote:Found this, could only try. I actually read people enable the horn through the etacs for the alarm.
https://www.mitsuguide.com/gimes-71-changing_the_security_alarm_settings.html

I have tried this, pretty sure it's the same in the manual which I checked first and attempted but it didn't work

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 pm

adamhumphrey wrote:I think it would have to be a canbus alarm. It would make sense to do it that way to avoid extra remotes and it would stop the factory immobiliser getting annoyed with the extra stuff. This wouldnt be a diy install. I used to fit car alarms for a company for many years. They are very compicated.


Mongoose Map77
https://www.mongoose.com.au/map77-canbus-factory-security-upgrade

Viper 3903TR
https://www.vipersecurity.com.au/products/factory-upgrades/directed-3903t-canbus-oem-upgrade-security-system-nissan-ford-toyota

Cyclops 695Kit
https://www.streetsoundvision.com.au/cyclops-695kit-canbus-upgrade-alarm

The other option is to find out what bits are required for the Oem alarm and fit those and enable using ETACs software. Lots of People do this on Peugeot cars. They have similar software and in lots of cases where the same in some cars as the Mitsubishi cars. This is how they originally made stuff to customise the Etacs.

Part catalog for Evo X
https://catalogs.ssg.asia/mitsubishi/?lang=en#bWFya2V0PT1qYXBhbnx8c3Q9PTUwfHxzdHM9PXsiMTAiOiJSZWdpb24iLCIyMCI6IkphcGFuIiwiMzAiOiJHQUxBTlQgRk9SVElTXC9MQU5DRVIgRVZPTFVUSU9OIiwiNDAiOiJDWjRBIiwiNTAiOiJTTlhGWiJ9fHxDYXRhbG9nTm89PUEwMTZZMTA1QXx8Q2F0U3RhcnREYXRlPT0yMDA3MDgxfHxDYXRFbmREYXRlPT0yMDE2MDEzfHxNb2RlbD09Q1o0QXx8Y2M9PVNOWEZa

Part calalog for Lancer
https://catalogs.ssg.asia/mitsubishi/?lang=en#bWFya2V0PT1qYXBhbnx8c3Q9PTUwfHxzdHM9PXsiMTAiOiJSZWdpb24iLCIyMCI6IkphcGFuIiwiMzAiOiJHQUxBTlQgRk9SVElTXC9MQU5DRVIgRVZPTFVUSU9OIiwiNDAiOiJDWTRBIiwiNTAiOiJXaXRob3V0IHBhcmFtZXRlcnMifXx8Q2F0YWxvZ05vPT1BMDE2WTEwNUF8fENhdFN0YXJ0RGF0ZT09MjAwNzA4MXx8Q2F0RW5kRGF0ZT09MjAxNjAxM3x8TW9kZWw9PUNZNEF8fGNjPT0w

Good luck I'll try to help if I can


I'm going to make the assumption that ALL the connectors for the base sensors are there so I'd be able to purchase and technically plug and play any of these and not require a second key?

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby adamhumphrey » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:16 am

I think you only need to add siren or second horn, shock sensor (I have no idea of location and I dont want to post security related things on here) It will have to be enabled within the ETACs box either through dealer or someone who has abilty to do that. Maybe jump on here on facebook they are really knowledgable and would most likely know the answers to everything.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby adamhumphrey » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:19 am

JaymeF12 wrote:
adamhumphrey wrote:The car should know about door ajar. Do you get an indicator on dash if boot is open?

Yes when I open the boot it shows but should it show with the bonnet?


Once you add the bonnet sensor it will work without being enabled if the wiring is there.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:50 am

adamhumphrey wrote:I think you only need to add siren or second horn, shock sensor (I have no idea of location and I dont want to post security related things on here) It will have to be enabled within the ETACs box either through dealer or someone who has abilty to do that. Maybe jump on here on facebook they are really knowledgable and would most likely know the answers to everything.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2273408659369453

Oh so I'd just need to buy the bonnet release hatch with the sensor cable off ebay, a siren (why doesnt it work off the built in horn?) and then just have it enabled in the ETAC and the security alarm SHOULD work? What do the shock sensors do exactly though? does it go off when the car is being moved?

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby adamhumphrey » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:36 pm

Best off checking if thats all you need to add. I can't answer that. I tried to enable it on my wife's (ex now) vrx and it didnt work. It had most stuff. The only thing i could get it to do was chirp when you lock and unlock the same as the evo.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:03 am

adamhumphrey wrote:Best off checking if thats all you need to add. I can't answer that. I tried to enable it on my wife's (ex now) vrx and it didnt work. It had most stuff. The only thing i could get it to do was chirp when you lock and unlock the same as the evo.

would the chirp just be something that is software based?

would any siren work or should I have a look at one of the previous kits you mentioned

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby adamhumphrey » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:44 am

The siren is the second horn for the car I believe.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:21 am

adamhumphrey wrote:The siren is the second horn for the car I believe.

Alright, is it the high or low tone? because i was looking at the SEA catalogue that you sent and there are two tones.

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby adamhumphrey » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:06 pm

I have no idea.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby aspir3 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 pm

lancerdarryl wrote:That my friend I cannot answer. The alarm was only fitted to Evo,Ralliart and Aspires and possible Vrx however I’m not sure about the Vrx

Only Evo and Ralliart had them.

The vrx and Aspire don’t have them.

The end of the day the lancer’s aren’t easy to steal. I’ve never felt the need for an alarm as most people are just immune to the going off as they go off so often.
An aftermarket alarm can be fitted if required

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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby lancerdarryl » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:24 pm

I was reasonably sure the VRX didn’t have one but I thought the Aspire being the high end model may have had one.The factory immobiliser is going to foil your average thief.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby cooyarpjm » Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:56 pm

The only thing alarms do is notify you of a smash and grab of car contents. Most thieves these days are teen joyriders who break into houses and steal the keys making an alarm mute.

However, i have a service manual for an OS variant of the lancer and in the dianostics that i have been reading, the normal horns (HI/LO) are used in the alarm circuit and the Bonnet switch is not used (Though if connected probably is). The indicator light (next to the hazard switch) is there but the wires are not in the plug (Pins 12 and 15) so these would need to be connected to pins 2 and 9 on connector C-317 (Pin 2 goes to 15 and pin 9 goes to 12). whether connecting these and then activating the alarm in the ETACS KON file would work is another storey.

P.S. This was a pretty quick investigation, i will have a closer look when i get the chance just to ensure i haven't mixed the order of the wires.
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Re: 07 to 09 lancer trims with security alarms

Postby JaymeF12 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:35 am

cooyarpjm wrote:The only thing alarms do is notify you of a smash and grab of car contents. Most thieves these days are teen joyriders who break into houses and steal the keys making an alarm mute.

However, i have a service manual for an OS variant of the lancer and in the dianostics that i have been reading, the normal horns (HI/LO) are used in the alarm circuit and the Bonnet switch is not used (Though if connected probably is). The indicator light (next to the hazard switch) is there but the wires are not in the plug (Pins 12 and 15) so these would need to be connected to pins 2 and 9 on connector C-317 (Pin 2 goes to 15 and pin 9 goes to 12). whether connecting these and then activating the alarm in the ETACS KON file would work is another storey.

P.S. This was a pretty quick investigation, i will have a closer look when i get the chance just to ensure i haven't mixed the order of the wires.

Wait so there is no plug that go from indicator light but it's wires that i need to connect myself? and would i need to purchase the C-317 plug because I don't have that plugged in the fuse box?


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